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pete: coop's the mvp of the morning, no doubt. will: no doubt. pete: what a pitch. this sunday.l for joining us go to church,, and we'll see you next weekend. carley: bye, everybody. ♪ ♪ maria: good sunday morning, everyone. welcome to "cund morning futures." i'm maria bartiromo. this morning live from the u.s. capital where the days are numbered ahead of a potential government shutdown as congressional leaders try to negotiate a bridge to a budget, a continuing resolution which keeps current spending levels for about a month until agreements on cuts can be made. all of this as an impeachment inquiry is underway against president biden into potential high crimes and misdemeanors such as bribery and money
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laundering. coming up live from the nucleus of it all, speaker of the house, kevin mccarthy, on breaking news of a plans for a 30-day continuing resolution and efforts to ramp up the house investigation of biden and company. but first, funding the military. the republicans have been trying to take a vote on a bill to set spending for the defense department. will republicans be able to bring the dod appropriations bill over the finish line? house foreign affairs chairman michael mccaul and house armed services member michael waltz on funding the military as conservatives draw a line in the sand with an end to reckless spending which sent the u.s. debt above $33 trillion. marjorie taylor greene on agreeing to fund a secure border while keeping the pressure on the biden influence-peddling investigation. what exactly were china, romania, russia and ukraine paying for if the biden family accepted millions of dollars from these countries while joe
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was vice president? columnist and fox news contributor miranda devine and peter schweizer on is accessing joe biden's personal tax records. it's all right here, right now live from the capitol on "sunday morning futures." ♪ ♪ maria: and we quinn this sunday morning from inside the nucleus of all the action today, the u.s. capitol, where a government shutdown is looming with the house facing a september toth -- 30th deadline to pass a budget for the new fiscal year and amidst an historic impeachment inquiry into a sitting president of the united states. lawmakers have just eight days to agree on spending levels to keep the government funded as republicans look to rein in the biden administration's out of control opinion spending with the nation's debt approaching a record $33 trillion as an impeachment inquiry is underway against president biden over allegations of bribe withly and money laundering -- bribery and money laundering with republicans saying the evidence
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is damning including 176 suspicious activity reports, 20 the shell companies set up while biden was vice president and witness testimony alleging joe biden's involvement in selling access to the nation's highest office to foreign ors. house democrats are sticking with the president who say he's done nothing wrong. >> they haven't uncovered anything. i think the president and the white house has been fully cooperative, and again, i just think they're digging around much as they did in benghazi, trying to create divisions. >> something like 25 the or 30 republicans with who don't agree with impeachment. there's no high crimes and misdemeanor, no treason, no bribery. >> republicans are engaging in kind of an evidence-free, fact-free impeachment inwiry that has nothing to do with high crimes and misdemeanors and has everything to do with kevin mccarthy's weakness as a speaker. maria: joining me now here in the i rayburn room in the capitol in this "sunday morning
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futures" exclusive is speaker of the house, congressman kevin mccarthy. thank you for joining us. >> thank you, i think it's your first time having the show in the capitol. maria: yes. your response to adam schiff? >> it's so ironic. here's a man when lied to the american public. i think we're showing the american public how we follow the constitution. an impeachment inquiry is simply the ability that gives the congress to strength to get the answers to questions. think about it, all this information we have now found we never would have known had not the republicans taken the majority. we now know the president lyed -- lied to the american public that, yes, he did get involved with his son's business, that they did set up shell companies, that the if fbi has an allegation from a whistleblower that the bidens were bribed. we have irs agents who have come forward and said the biden administration, the doj, has treated his family different than others, let a statute of limitations run out.
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and the whole question lies, did he get involved with burisma and get a prosecutor fired in ukraine under his work because of what his son was doing. maria: yeah. >> these are all allegations we need answers to. and now we found out just recently that he used different names in e-mails so you couldn't foia the e-mail and get it, but now we have to have the ability to get that. so i think we see the american public, we're simply following the facts wherever it takes us. but unfortunately, it looks like a culture of corruption with this family. maria: yeah. i want to get back to this because i know there's a lot of people who want to know if you are going to subpoena hunter biden, biden family members. i'll get back to that in a moment. let's talk about the meetingses you've been having over this september 30th deadline. what can you tell us in terms of a path forward? do you have agreement on a path forward? >> i feel we made some good progress this weekend. when republicans took the majority, we wanted the change washington. make members show up for work,
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no more proxy voting, bills have to go through committee, no more of these omnibuses where the appropriation bills get jammed to us on christmas time. what we're trying to do is pass them individually. unfortunately, i had a handful of members last week that literally, the republicans, stopped the department of defense appropriations from coming forward. none of them can complain. this is giving our troops a pay raise, making our military strong against china, getting the wokism that the democrats have put in out. and and so i'm trying to get that that to move forward to stop, to make sure that the republicans aren't stopping us from being able to get our work done before the 30th. maria: so why don't you just bring the bill to the floor to see who would vote against funding the military? >> we will do that this week. i gave them an opportunity this weekend to try and, work through this, and we'll bring it to the floor, win and lose, and show the american public who's for our military, who's for giving them a pay raise and making sure we can take the wokism out.
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maria: walk us through the issues that you're feeling pushback from this handful of members on a continuing resolution. what do you want to see happen here in. >> i understand the frustration we have with this administration, but it's a difference of strategy. some people say you should shut down. but think about this, i've been through shutdowns, and i've never seen somebody win a shutdown. because when you shut down, you give all your power to the administration. but how are you going to win your arguments to secure the border if the border agents don't get paid? how are you going to win the arguments to get wokism out of the department of defense if even our own troops aren't being paid? you have no strength there. i think the greatest ability to it's finish the appropriation work to show that we do, give us a short time period to get that done and make the case to the american public. i will promise you this, that that based upon this administration's policies along the border, you've got the mayor of new york becoming a border community, right? everybody wants this border
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secure. we'll win that argument. and i think that's the basis. you've got aoc being heckled in new york. you've got every community feeling what's happening with fentanyl killing americans across this country, all based upon the biden administration's decisions, is and we've got to be able to stop that. maria: yeah, no, i understand that much of the common if ground is around this wide open border. you mentioned that isis members are coming over the border as well? >> this is important. and you covered the border, i think, better than anyone on television early on. what we have now found out, that somebody associated with isis has been hired to bring people across the border. you've watched now that the biden administration, we caught more people in the month of february on the terrorist watch list than in the entire last four years under the last administration. so i have requested last friday a full classified briefing for all members many congress about what's happening on the border right now. but most importantly, what's happening with this individual that has ties to isis.
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this was so important that they got, they had a classified briefing sent to all the cabinet members in the white house that we heard just last week. i think members of congress need to know about this. maria: i mean, have you gotten a response from alejandro mayorkas, joe biden on isis members walking across into america? >> well, they say they're tied to isis, so i don't know. i read it on cnn. i want a classified briefing for all members. we only have this happen on classified briefings a couple times a year on threats to america. i think this is one of the greatest threats right now. maria: look, i understand most people agree with that, that there's common ground on securing the border. but many of your members even beyond the most conservative do not want to see nancy pelosi's policies continue. so how are you going to push back on that and ensure that you can actually see the cuts in spending that you want? >> the only way you're going to be able to do that is you have to pass the appropriation bills. because these are republican bills. these are the most conservative
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bills going forward. but remember, you don't get it all your own way. so the senate, you have to compete with the senate. and unfortunately on the senate side, the republicans and democrats over there are writing bills to spend more money. ours are the most conservative, but if we don't pass them, we're weaker in the negotiations. so anytime a republican wants to hold back and stop the floor from working when republicans have the majority, that puts us many in a weaker position to win at the end of the day. maria: even if you get agreement, and -- do you think you'll get agreement this week, by the way in. >> i believe we'll get agreement. maria: aren't we at a stand still anyway? is are you going to get agreement in the senate? is joe biden going to sign this? >> i don't know, because the senate blew up last week too. they could not pass anything. so we have a real problem here. look what's happening under this biden america country. the most union president in the world did policies that he's getting union autoworkers fired because he's turning everything towards china and electric cars. and now they're all on strike.
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you've got gasoline at the high price because he attacks the energy where america could be energy independent. he makes our allies weaker, our adversaries stronger. he brings us inflation by his runaway spending. but we've been able to chip away with that. you know, with the debt ceiling it was the biggest cut in american history, more than $2 trillion. we forced, actually, government to work with a 1% cut across the board if they don't get all their work done on appropriations. we're setting a structure to change the course of history. maria: yeah. all of that, the policies that you mentioned of the biden administration, is one reason that donald trump is leading in the polls right now. what's your take on this, that as we see more indictments of donald trump, he seems to be gaining in term des of popularity with the9 public? -- in terms of popularity with the public? will he be the nominee? >> i think he will be the nominee. president trump is stronger today than he was in 2016 or 2020, and there's a reason why. they saw the policies of what he was able to do with america, putting america first, making
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our economy stronger. we didn't have inflation. we didn't have these battles around the world. we didn't look weak around the world. maria: well, it looks like ron desantis is now trying to work with your colleagues who are pushing for a shutdown. >> yeah, but i don't think that would work anywhere. a shutdown would only give strength to the democrats. it would give the power to biden. it wouldn't pay our troops, our border agents, more people would be coming across. i actually want to achieve something, and this is why president trump was so smart, he was successful in this. president trump is beating biden right now in the polls -- maria: yeah, we have the poll. let's show it. >> he's stronger than he has ever been in this process. and, look, i served with ron desantis, he's not at the same level as president trump by any shape or form. he would not is are gotten elected without president trump's endorsement. so i believe do our step forward, pass our appropriation bills so we're stronger. take the wokism out, secure our border to make america stronger. maria: what about the impeachment inquiry? will you subpoena hunter biden?
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don jr. spent 20 hours, they brought him in and questioned him. how come you haven't brought in hunter biden? >> i don't subpoena anybody -- maria: jim jordan. >> with i let committees do their work. think about this, maria, you wouldn't know any of this if you weren't in charge. maria: i understand that. >> the one thing the american public has to understand is there's a strategy behind everything. we only follow facts. hunter biden will get subpoenaed, but do you do it because television wants it, or do you do it around the facts and the timing when comer -- i think we should have the bank statements to actually know where did the money go so you would know the questions to ask hunter biden. to just subpoena hunter biden because you want to fund raise or you want to do -- maria: don't you have e-mails that say hunter biden was complaining that that he was paying all the family bills? >> that came from the laptop. but we also have 5400 e-mails that joe biden used as vice
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president a false name that we have not been able to get yet. wouldn't it be smarter in an investigation that you were able to get all of those e-mails? because with wouldn't that show we saw one where it was sent to joe biden, hunter biden about a phone call with the president of ukraine. wouldn't you want to know all that information so you can ask all the right questions? so i think let them can do their job. they're doing a very good job at it, and let 'em follow it and talk it at the right time. maria: are there plans to subpoena any other family members? because according to the republicans, family members accepted money from -- >> well, it looks to me like nine biden family members got money. i want to see bank statements. i think they'd have to come before us to answer questions. impeachment inquiry empowers congress a legal ability to get the information we need. that's going to be bank statements, credit card statements, family members coming in and answering the questions so the american public can know. maria: i know last week fireworks were all over the
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place here. you have matt gaetz pushing you to shut down the government with until he gets what he wants in the face of all of this. he tweeted this this morning about you, saying, speaker mccarthy tries to sub i view gate my critique of his failure as a some sort of ethics committee reaction. what is your reaction to matt gaetz? are we once again talking about a motion to vacate? >> well, it could. and that would be -- if you did a motion to vacate, you would have a handful of republicans work with adam schiff, eric swalwell, ilhan omar to remove the speaker, and it would be exactly9 what the president wants because it would shut doww how much we went through in january. how would we ever select the speaker? i would stay and we'd go through it, is so ld be no investigation. st it's not something that i lay out there that matt's mad about an ethics complaint, it's an ethics complaint that happened in the last congress that a matt went to other members saying i'm going to try to influence kevin
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to get involved in an ethics -- i can't do it. it's illegal, and it's not something i will be a part of. maria: it's extraordinary to me that in the face of all that you and your colleagues have been able to uncover the finish. >> yes. maria: -- you're, once again, getting these threats from matt gaetz and a handle of others? >> these are individuals that they have a right to do what they want, but i am only going to focus on the american public. look, i showed in january i will never give up. we have made great progress here in changing this capitol, and when you change washington, you get enemies. i got adam schiff, i got eric swalwell upset because i kicked them off the intel committee. you've got matt gaetz working with swalwell to try to throw me out, that's all well and good, but i'm not going to be deterred from that. maria: yeah. >> i'm going to focus, we're going to secure our border, we're going to cut spending and inflation, we passed the parents' bill of rights, we've been able to remove so many of the irs agents, we're going after the next. we're going to make our military stronger and get this pay raise
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true even if they want to vote against it. maria: what's the likelihood of a shutdown? >> i want to make sure we don't shut down. i don't think that is a win for the american public, and i definitely believe it'll make our hand weaker if we shut down. maria: i think it was churchill when said you have enemies? good, that means you stood the for something. >> i think america will stand on our side. maria: speaker mccarthy, thank you so much. quick break and then hunter biden was indicted the week but not on the charges tied to his father, instead on federal gun charges, something critics say is a smoke screen. house foreign affairs committee chairman michael mccaul, a former u.s. prosecutor, on the merits of the case and whether more charges are coming for high crimes and misdemeanors. stay with us. ♪are ♪ voya. well planned. well invested. well protected.
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maria: welcome back. coming to you live this morning from the capitol where house republicans have launched an impeachment inquiry into president biden and as house lawmakers invest allegations of bribery and money laundering, special counsel david weiss on thursday indicted hunter biden on federal gun charges. but critics are questioning the timing and content of this indictment. it is the one charge that actually does not implicate president joe biden. questions arising as to why weiss is yet to address the
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other charges related to biden's foreign business deals and whether those transactions violated the foreign agents' registration act. what specifically was hunter and members of his a family being paid millions of dollars for from foreigners? joining me now is the chairman of the house foreign affairs committee, congressman michael mccaul, who's also a former u.s. prosecutor. good to see you. >> thanks for having me. maria: i want to get right into this impeachment inquiry and get your take as a former prosecutor on this indictment of hunter biden last week. >> well, look, these are the cleanest, easiest indictments. gun charges are are pretty easy. wire transfers, more complicated. that's going to take more time. i think they had a speedy trial act to conform with, to is they want to get these indictments done. first, i've always questioned weiss being in charge of this in the first place. he cut the sweetheart deal. he's hardly impartial. and i think i would recommend to merrick garland he appoint either somebody else or an outside counsel to give this
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investigation more credibility. maria: well, what about the credibility of the impeachment inquiry? what does that get you? what kind of tools? what more do you need? the speaker of the house was just saying we want more evidence. what more evidence? >> it really does because they can subpoena grand jury material. executive immunity does not apply, so it heightens the standards, if you will, in term des of what congress can obtain versus a normal legislative subpoena. it really does raise the standards. maria: are you going to be able to access joe biden's bank records? i mean, is he going to be that dumb, to actually have a check forwarded from xi jinping to his personal bank account? >> i doubt it. that's why they used shell corporations. you know, my 1997 investigation into china in the clinton campaign, they used dummy corporations, wire transfers. they don't report the taxes to conceal, you know, the evidence. and that's what hunter biden was
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doing here. you know, the fact that the judge threw the plea agreement out shows that an investigation is warranted, and the fact that irs whistleblowers, she based throwing the appeal -- plea agreement out based upon the amicus brief that the irs tax blow or, you know, whistleblower submitted. maria: right. >> all, those all -- do and the fact that the a.g. appointed special counsel, this is nothing out of line are. what kevin mccarthy did is absolutely appropriate and proper. maria: the last time we spoke you made a really interesting observation, and you told me that back in the days of your prosecutor days, you actually investigated whether or not china, communist china, was trying to interfere in a u.s. election. are we at that moment once again? i mean, we're here talking about the appropriations bills and the fact that you were unable to get the department of defense appropriations bill to the house floor to actually take a vote. your members are pushing back. we spoke with kevin mccarthy
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about that. what about that, and what is china saying knowing that it's actually investing resources in its navy, now it's got a larger e navy than the united states? >> that's right. well, first of all, i've been tasked by the speaker to assist the oversight and government reform. with respect to foreign policy decisions the president may have made or vice president at that time with respect to money coming in to try to tie the two. we don't have the evidence now, but we may find it later. maria: sounds like china wants joe biden in charge of america. >> well, you know what? this money's coming from china -- maria: what money's coming from china? >> from the chinese energy company that gave money to hunter biden, in addition to the mayor of moscow ooh's wife who gave him $3.5 billion and got exempted from the can -- maria: there was a check for $3.5 million. >> yes. maria: right, okay. >> to your point, xi jinping loves nothing more than to see democracy fail, it doesn't work, and the fact that congress can't
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get, the united states democracy can't get its act together and pass a department of defense appropriation when he has a trillion dollars invested in his and we have somewhere around, i don't know, it's $830 billion. hypersonics are a first-strike capability. we don't have hypersonics. that's just one case in point. as you mentioned their navy, they have more ships than the united states navy. this is no time to play politics with our national security. believe me, xi jinping is the one laughing right now. maria: i also want to get your take on the $6 billion that has been freed up for iran. i spoke with the former exiled crown prince the other day, and he said they're going to spend the money on what they want to spend it on. and yet john kirby at the defense department the other day said, oh, no, there are conditions. they can only spend it on humanitarian efforts. really? >> maria, they are so naive. i got briefed verbal ally on this, it was a hostage swap for
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$6 billion. remember, the jcpoa back in, you know, obama's day, that was half a billion. this is $6 billion. they told me humanitarian purposes only. we all know money's fungible. and then the president of iran just came out and said i'm going to spend it however i want to, and of course he is. guess where it's going to go? it's going to go into terror proxy operations, it's going to go into building their nuclear, you know, their nuclear not defense system, but offensive system for a nuclear war. and guess what's happened since then? a third of the inspectors at the iaea, the international atomic energy agency, have been stripped by iran out. and also just today, this morning, the saudis said, hey, this deal with israel you're trying to negotiate, we're out. it's having a damaging effect throughout the middle east, and it all started with this very naive transaction of $6 billion. imagine what iran's going to do with $6 billion. maria: by the way, this is mind-boggling to me, the fact that hunter biden's company is
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still an equity holder of a chinese nuclear company. i don't understand. this as well as chinese companies that are already sanctioned by america are in index funds, no problem. americans are unwittingly funding the expansion of communist china. >> yeah. this gets into our technology transfers and outward-bound capital flows. we have to stop funding the pla, we have the stop exporting technology where they built their hypersonic and spy balloon, by the way. this has to stop. and, by the way, hunter biden's doing this? there is a foreign agents registration act that he has to comply -- if he's operating as an agent of a foreign power, he needs to comply with that. maria: so do you think there will be more charges coming, our is this it, the gun charges? >> i fully expect more. and if not, it calls into question the seriousness of this administration and the department of justice. i think it should have been sent to somebody else other than the fox guarding the henhouse.
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maria: welcome back. we are coming to you live this sunday morning from merchandise the u.s. capitol. new data this week exposing the negative impact of bidenomics from red hot inflation and 10-month highs in the price of oil to declining incomes. american wallets are reaching a breaking point. the census bureau reported incomes down for three years in a row, and between 2021-202, real median household income declined while inflation went up nearly 8%, the largest increase
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since 1981. the numbers do not add up. joining me now with the impact of bad policy on their con stuff wents is georgia -- constituents is congressmen marjorie taylor ween -- greene and michael waltz. you're facing this uphill battle of funding the government but not having nancy pelosi's policies continuing. where are we on this? >> well, we're working it out, and we have our work cut out for us coming up this week. starting on monday, speaker mccarthy told us last week that we're not leaving town until we get our job done, and i completely agree with that approach, maria. americans are working overtime in their jobs, i think congress should be doing the same thing. maria: look, i know you're not a member of the freedom caucus mihm, but what is the issue with a 30-day, short-term resolution here so that the government doesn't shut down? or should a shutdown happen? >> well, i think conservatives across america are sick and
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tired of the overspending in washington. with over $3 # 3 trillion in debt, that is outrageous. what we want to see happen is we want to see, to cut spending in our appropriation bills, and i think we can do that. but we have to prioritize the border. the border is completely out of control. over 300 americans dying every single day, drugs, human trafficking, and now thousands of migrants, illegal aliens, being mass released by border patrol? why? because the biden administration doesn't care about a border. with the biden administration, we have no border. maria: look, you say that there's common ground there the but, look, congressman waltz, you haven't even had an agreement on funding the military. what's the problem with the dod appropriations bill? >> we can't get anyone to state a problem with the actual bill. maria, this is a very conservative bill that will cut critical race theory, will cut dei and all of that nonsense, will get our war fighters focused back on defending the
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country. maria, it establishes an inspector general for ukraine funding to keep eyes on what biden's sending over there with his blank check. it cuts $20 billion of wasteful spending out of the pentagon. maria, it even takes a billion out of the civilian bloated work force and gives the enlisted troops a 30% raise. so we can't get anyone to say what's wrong with that. what i think is happening is they're using that bill as hostage for the broader spending cuts. i totally agree with marjorie, with the freedom caucus and other, we have to get spending under control. but we can't do it on the backs of our troops and getting this, biden's pentagon under control to cut the climate, crt and other, other nonsense. so i it would speaker mccarthy bring it to the floor, enough is enough. let's is have people go on record with how they want to vote. maria: it looks like that's what's going to happen this week, but a lot of people expect a government shutdown. what happens then? >> well, i don't think that needs to happen. actually, i think we need to
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work, we need to do our jobs. and i think we're capable of doing that. the voters across america gave republicans the house majority for a reason, and that's because they don't like democrat policies of failure, of high inflation. senior citizens can't afford groceries. gas prices are out of control. no one can afford their electricity bills, and nobody wants the green new deal. so i think it's our job to get in the room and get to work work and figure out how to fund the government but do it appropriately. >> no. and i just want to add to that, my problem with the shutdown is then biden can say, you know what? border patrol isn't getting paid, can just literally throw his arms up, and it'll make the border situation worse. and what i want folks to understand is the last time we had a shutdown, president trump was in office and could manage, you know, the impact of it. now with biden in office, he can say, you know what? republicans in the house did this, the investigations stop, the troops don't get paid, the border patrol doesn't get paid. i just don't think that's the way to go.
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maria: layer on top of this, congresswoman, you've got a strike right now from the united autoworkers. tell the me where that's going and whether or not you elect officials can do anything about that. >> i think it's a disaster for america. these autoworkers are striking the big three, but we're also -- they're also striking at a time when the green new deal is now in effect. and with the democrats wanting net zero by 2035, they're striking an industry that is literally going to destroy their jobs. this is a crisis for america. this is a crisis for anyone that loves their cars and trucks. maria: yeah. >> that has a hobbyist into historic cars and wants to keep that going -- maria: you made the point, pardon me, you know who isn't striking? tesla, toyota. >> that's right. maria: the international car makers. look, i've got to get on to the impeachment inquiry, and i want to talk with you about this, congressman, because one of the things i am just blown away by is this chinese nuclear company, chinese nuclear supplier company that rosemont seneca is an
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investor in, hunter biden's company? >> that's right. hunter biden's private equity firm that he is a major shareholder of has invested in blacklisted chinese firms including a nuclear firm that's sanctioned for trying to steal our nuclear warheads. so he and the white house say, oh, he's not on the board anymore. maybe not, but you know what? he's an equity holder. he has a financial interest. and this -- we know this just from business filings in china. so here's why the inquiry is so important over a regular investigation. the inquiry penetrates executive privilege whether it's over the e-mails, and and it has standing to get these kinds of records from whether the banks, the llcs, the shell companies or these private equity firms that hunter is a, is an equity holder. so so how is that then affecting biden saying we don't want to contain china? we want china to be successful on the international stage. how is policy being affected?
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maria: that's what we've been trying to identify, congresswoman. we've been trying the identify what specific policy changes did joe biden make or was joe biden behind to, you know, understand why he was paid and his family was paid this $20 million plus although nancy mace told me it's up to $50 million. >> welsh maria, you're absolutely right. we know policy changes were made. when joe biden was vice president, he got the ukrainian prosecutor, viktor shokin, fired. and then i would argue we're in a war in ukraine, in a proxy war with russia today. why? because the bidens are on the hook. he couldn't say no to zelenskyy, and he still can't say no. these are the types of dangerous policy decisions that this leader has made, and he's lied about 'em. he lied about 9/11 just last week, and if he lies about that, he will lie about anything. maria: so why aren't you getting his family members in and subpoenaing them?
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i know that this is jim jordan's committee -- >> yeah. maria: -- that, you know, next week you've got merrick garland testifying. >> yes. >> but, look, if we had hunter biden in tomorrow, which i would love to see, he's going to lie. we need to have his bank records, we need to see where the money went. we know he complained about paying dad can's bills. he complained that he couldn't have access to dad's account. he complained about having to share half his salary. maria: yeah e. >> that's all admissible in court, but i want to see the actual records, and that's what jordan and comer are going afte- maria: are we going to see a subpoena of biden family members? >> i will say, yes, eventually. but we're going to have all of the information in front of us beforehand. and we're -- maria: what if you don't get it? >> well, let me tell you who else we need to have. we need to have every single federal bureaucrat that covered up joe biden's crimes for all these years. this isn't anything new because those are the people that we have to fire, and those are the people that under a republican-held white house, urn
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president trump, the department of justice needs to prosecute. maria: all right. we will leave it there. great conversation. thank you so much to both, congress congressman michael waltz and georgia congresswoman marjorie taylor green. congressman michael waltz. thank you. congresswoman, thank you. up next, crimes and misdemeanors, informed analysis on president biden and his family's overseas business deals with new york post columnist miranda devine and peter schweizer, we've got breaking news there coming up right after this. ♪ ♪ we're not writers, but we help you shape your financial story. ♪ we're not an airline, but our network connects global businesses across nearly 160 markets. ♪ we're not a startup, but our innovation labs use new technologies to help keep your information secure. ♪ we're not architects, but we help build stronger communities. ♪ we're not just any bank. we are citi.
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contrary. joining me right now is "the new york post" columnists miranda define, and peter schweizer, president of the government accountability institute. miranda is the author of the must-read "laptop from hell," peter is the hour of "redhanded," both best selling authors. thanks very much for being here. peter, something that is not being spoken about very much, but you're well aware of this $5.2 million discrepancy in joe biden's tax returns. what do you know about this? >> yeah. well, what we know is that joe biden has an llc called celtic capris through which he runs his money, and on his 2017 and 2018 tax returns, he said on his tax returns that he had $12.6 million in income during those two years. flash forward to 2019 when he runs for president of the united states, he fills out a form for the office of government ethics,
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a financial disclosure. during those same two years, he says on form that he only had $7.4 million in income. that's 40% less than he told the irs that that he had. what accounts for that should -- that $5.2 million, you know, discrepancy? it's during the same time period, it's the same entity. i certainly think one possibility is in 2019 when he fills out that form to run for president, there's a lot more scrutiny than there was when he was filing his taxes back in to -- 2018. maria: we have been saying that the president continues to deny any involvement in this, but the house republicans tell us that the entire family has collected money. so what about this? can the president continue to say i don't know what my family made? i are anything to do with any millions of -- i have nothing to do with any millions of dollars that my family may have been paid from foreigners. what do you think, peter? >> well, look, i think there's a couple questions. first of all, i think one of the
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reasons the house is investigating is to untangle how joe biden might have financially benefited from these deals. but let's be crystal clear about this, if you look at the federal guidelines on bribery, foreign corrupt practices act, the international bribery standards that the obama-biden administration signed on to in 2011, bribery does not just entail the politician getting paid. if he was a political figure and took actions that benefited an entity that then pays your family members and you don't even get a dime, that still constitutes bribery. so when the white house says no money to joe, nothing to see here, that avoids the issue. maria: and, miranda, you've written and reported extensively on the 10% for the big guy as well as this movement from republicans wanting joe biden's bank records. >> yes. and, look, maria, the irony of what peter was just saying about family members is that when joe biden was going to ukraine as
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vice president and lecturing them about corruption, one of the new statutes that they were bringing in was that it was going to be bribery for family members of officials to receive money. so it's amazing that the u.s. state department and the vice president were demanding from ukrainians things that joe biden doesn't even abide by with himself. and i think the hi pock i city was not lost on the ukrainians. maria: miranda, do you believe that this inquiry will give the republicans more tools to investigate, a deeper probe? >> oh, definitely. james comer looking forward very much to having things like immunity to offer to witnesses. he believes he might have gotten more from devon archer if he'd been able to offer him immunity. certainly eric schwerin who was the bookkeeper will be benefiting from that. and also just the ability for his subpoenas to have more weight. maria: okay. hold on, you guys.
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maria: welcome back. back with miranda devine and peter schweitzer. miranda, we've been hearing lots of attacks and criticism about
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merrick garland and whether or not he's tipping the scales with all of these charges against joe biden. but there's an article in the journal this morning saying that now the relationship is deteriorating. what can you tell us? >> well, it seems pretty clear that merrick garland has decided that he's taking too much reputational damage, and so i guess the gloves are off now particularly since hunter biden's lawyers unloaded with that leaked politico and the new york times after the plea deal collapsed. basically, humiliated david weiss and, you know, went through chapter and verse all the special meetings and the collaboration that went on during that 5-year investigation supposed into with hunter biden and the sweetheart deal that emanated from that. and i think now there's a pitfall, a guy called lee -- leo weiss, who who's being put on
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the case, and he has a track record of being a tough prosecutor. i don't know it's going to be easy going for hunter biden to come. but also at the same time, you've got james comer's people as much as the democrats try to pooh-pooh his investigation -- maria: yeah. >> -- he's closing in on some pretty serious aspects of this, particularly he's following the money trail. he has specific bank account numbers in the united states where it's alleged by people in ukraine money went to joe biden. maria: right. and, peter, 5 million to one biden and 5 million to the other biden was the testimony if a whistleblower. >> yeah, exactly right. look, the impeachment inquiry's going to give capitol hill a lot more muscle. more to come. maria: all right. we've will leave it there. miranda define, peter schweizer, thank you. thank you for joining us. i'll seeth you tomorrow on fo- . and retirement savings.
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♪ ♪ howard: kevin mccarthy under pressure from the right green lights an impeachment inquiry against president biden. the white house scolds the media about doing their job birdies crediting the allegations,es and hunter biden indicted on gun charges. i'm howard kurtz. we've got two presidential candidates joining "mediabuzz" today to weigh in on these and other subject, ron desantis and mike pence. we begin with my sit-down with the florida governor

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